In this edition of the weekly rant, another iconic name in the RC flying industry disappears off the map and I question the veracity of claims that a drone caused the crash of a Robinson R22 helicopter in the USA — as well as suggesting that it is about time that manned aviation started making changes to accommodate drones.
I feel like manned aviation should have a rule that limits how low they can fly. Unless they already do, I mean it would make sense. So if a manned aircraft can’t go below a certain height and drones can’t go over a certain height no more problems… well except for us not being to fly higher. Lol
haha… I had to watch a DJI “race version” headset ad first. “Only 50ms latency! Covers your entire head!”
3 years ago it would have been lasers. Now it’s literally illegal to use a cat toy outdoors. It was the exact same thing. There were only a handful of real incidents but stories on the news every day about pilots seeing things that later turned out to be christmas lights. Now they are doing the same thing with drones.
hahaha… unintentionally funniest xjet vlog ever. I thought the ironic DJI ad was enough hilarity, but it only gets better! I cannot believe the price of dope these days either. I think older fellas have to pay even more. “Buttgrinder” probably has a dope sponsor.
Regarding the heli crash, that was my initial thought as well. When I heard about it!
Here in the land of the free, the land of Cowboys, our government would like nothing better than we all plunk down $200 for a team jersey and $125 for a team cap, and that we spend all our free time in front of our TVs watching our team, drinking beer, and occasionally beating our wives out of pure desperation. The truth is fear that we are getting too smart. Consider the Skydio R1 drone. It is fully autonomous, requires no pilot. It can be pre programed to chase people wearing a particular color of clothing that are actively trying to hide from the drone. It can fly around obstacles as it chases it’s target. Imagine the applications and implications of such off the shelf “toy” technology that is readily available to anyone. So, the way I see it, governments will continue to look for excuses to dumb us all down, to keep us as mere cattle. Moooo.
The guy who crashed into the US military helicopter (a BlackHawk, I think) was ratted out by DJI because investigators found a component (motor, IIRC) and it had a serial number… and that was enough for DJI to trace the drone and who bought it (or whoever registered it with them)… I guess the point remains that DJI will narc you out however they can. No subpoena, no warrant, no attempt to protect their customer’s privacy. I’m surprised the RFID-gun type tech they’re offering to agencies which want to regulate sUAVs doesn’t give more information than has been claimed, but I suppose they wouldn’t want to sell something that doesn’t keep the user dependent on DJI — even if it’s just to query a database and connect a name to a number.
So by this logic, your stating that for “safety” we must give up more rights… I’m sorry but I’m highly opposed. Everyone should use common sense, it’s not rocket science.
Yep dunno, doesn’t make much sense to me that you’d crash to avoid crashing. I wasn’t there so I’m not making any judgement or drawing any conclusions. I’ll let the people with actual information work that out, for everyone else it’s only guess work.
Been saying this for ages Bruce, could not agree more.
have used that iron in years . Now I can chuck it without concern. yay
What if a bush walker was struct by material blown up by the helicopters wash. The helicopter pilot was the one endangering the public, don’t you think.
Just another Phantom Drone excuse for bad flying…..media mogul’s wet dream. Used to be UFOs but can’t ban/make money from them.
Sounds like a low hour instructor teaching a low hour student. Crash, make up a story or it will be the end of my flying career before it really even starts. There no mention of the instructors total hours which is strange. Most flying incidents reported generally states the flying hours / experience of the PIC.
People swerve to avoid squirrels all the time and crash. I don’t think squirrels can cause anymore damage than drones.
I disagree! Manned aviation need make no accomadation’s for drone’s. Drones will use what airspace is unused by manned flight.I am a full scale pilot and also fly many type’s of drone’s as well. Drone’s must alway’s yield to full scale craft.
That thing in North Carolina sound’s very much like pilot error, loss of situational awareness. Crappy instructor w/ a student pilot. Any idiot would know to fly the helicopter FIRST! worry about a plastic drone after u land.
In the U.S. min. altitude {AGL} near populated area’s is 1500 ft. with restriction’s. 500 ft. {AGL} is very restricted to unpopulated area’s. $00 ft.{AGL} is open for drone’s w/ restriction’s. Report the N- number’s to the nearest airport when u see a illegal low flight. I live at over 8,000 ft and we have a phone number to report low flying military aircraft. Sometimes the jet’s fighter’s, chinook’s, and osprey’s fly as low as 50 – 250 ft. Right through my “special use” airspace. I yield, and land asap to avoid a conflict. We all have to fly in the other man’s shoe’s and be considerate to be safe.
Na, Na, Na, those trees should be lowered because helicopters pilots/instructors may panic when they see green, not to mention those blasted drones!!!
One less R-22 in the world can only be a good thing, especially if the pilot’s are okay. Any belt driven underpowered, teetering head, low rotor mass helicopter which has horrible tendencies at the hands of inexperienced pilots is going to have these incidents regularly.. as R-22’s do, but now it was someone else’s fault! Bart Simpson learning to fly… ‘It Wasn’t Me..”
I guess it depends on the distance. Different phantoms have different “stripes” on the arms and a different gimbal/camera below. If you are perhaps 50m away you can see the stripes and if you have really good idea you can sort of make out the diff between a p3 and p4.
I had an incident a few years back flying a drone at river. I flew behind me and down a road then turned around and came back, hovered then made a left turn and landed where I was sitting to change the battery. A woman came over and told me that I almost hit her! She was exiting a trail and I was facing her. Now there was 60 feet between her and I and I was not moving at the time. People are paranoid because of media and false facts! The woman told me “Drones are DANGEROUS!” I would have shown her the recording but I didn’t know how to bring it up on the camera.
Are drones more dangerous than assault weapons?
Hey Bruce, love these incident update videos! I completely agree with your premise of distributing air space to increase safety, however, is it really plausible? For example, how would emergency service helicopters operate safely? Due to their very nature the sub 400ft height limit is their bread and butter and since an emergency is a dynamic situation, even creating temporary restrictions to the space they may be operating would be impossible, for say, a car chase or some such?… can’t see how that could be legislated for bit if there is a way, I’m in!! ?
If a drone was involved, I would blame the pilots association.
they are demonising drones and constantly saying they are dangerous.
with that sort of bogeyman information, it is no wonder someone panicked.
if they had as many brains at a cattle dog’s poop, they would start putting out real information.
It’s always a phantom drone because people know nothing about drone, they don’t know that exist other drone than the phantom, so blame the phantom, good for me because i have no phantom but a jjpro p200 so i will never be accuse of collision with an helicopter !
DJI Phantom 4 crashes into Blackhawk helicopter. Helicopter doesn’t crash. New York USA. Wonder if this is why they called out this model drone. NTSB says drone operator at fault.
Because of the “blame drones game” going on here in the US, along with living near some “paranoid” neighbors who apparently think that UAVs could be spying on them thru their living room windows, I’ve forsaken flying “drones”, or as I prefer to call them, multi rotor UAVs outdoors. I hate calling them drones actually because it invokes the military connotation which in today’s world means spying and missile strikes. It’s a very negative and undeserving association purposely intended to add to the negative narrative concerning not only the military usage but the hobby activity as well. Therefore, I have gone back to flying traditional RC aircraft (mostly gliders and DLGs) outdoors because they are more obviously models with a long history of usage. I still fly the micro multirotor UAVs in my house or inside large buildings, but my small fleet of larger home built UAVs are now all hanger queens.
I enjoy watching many of your videos on both channels and thank you for being a staunch advocate for logic and reason concerning the hobby.
I hate all the fear mongering around drones these days. It wouldn’t have been news if they said “pilot saw a big ugly bird which caused him to crash”.
Can I have a roll of idiots for solar flim
Dope is certainly getting more expensive these days.
Sir, I have 2 DJI drones. A Phantom 3 Standard and a Mavic Pro. The claims by the pilot and student pilot are ridiculous saying it was a Phantom 4. I can barely see the DJI logo on my Phantom 3 just a few feet away when lifting off. The instructor and student pilot should be grounded for falsifying claims about a near collision to the FAA.
Pilot crashes and calls drone
Girl gets pregnant and calls unmarried sex
Poor workmen blames his tools
1:40 I agree, Dope is REAL expensive these days. I don’t get mine in tins though, it comes in baggies.
Now I have seen it all 😉
What attracted my attention was that the headline said the drone “made” the helicopter crash. Really? Did the helicopter controls become inactive due to 2.4 ghz interference??
Claiming the drone “made” the helicopter do anything is a ridiculous statement from the outset.
I heard it was a Phantom 4 Pro, not a Phantom 4.
Pilot unions came out and basically stated to if you see something in the air and its not a bird. Claim Drone.
It was swamp gas no drone
I believe that we as drone operators especially those of us who are following the rules as laid out by the FAA should be in titled to the space below 400 feet. I have only gone above 400 feet when I was filming a power plant steam stack that was 650 ft tall. Legally because it was so tall I was entitled under FAArules to go above 400 feet. I did 1 pass at 700 ft and 1 at 800 ft. Got what I wanted and needed and came back down by the side of the stack. Personally other than what I just outlined I usually stay at 300 ft or below. It’s usually plenty high enough for my needs, it’s also a lot easier to see that Phantom that I’m flying that day. I’m cursed and lucky at the same time. I live in Western Iowa right in between Des Monies to the east and Omaha to the west. In between? Nothing but thousands of acres of corn,soybeans, cattle and pig farms. Also most of the really huge wind turbine farms are out here. They just built one last summer in a little eyesore named Dana which is some how a town, maybe 50 people and a grainery. It’s about 300 acres it’s the biggest thing I’ve ever seen out here and very drone friendly. I can’t wait to get out there this summer and finish my project on it now that it’s fully functional. We are the town that everyone comes to for shopping. I’m sorry I spent 54 years in Chicago if I need something I go to the big cities here. My daughter and her family live in a surburb of Des Monies so we plan ahead so we can make a weekend or just a day of it. Grandkids are always happy to see us and while I can’t fly in this weather, I can run my waterproof RC trucks so we always have fun. What happened in So. Carolina is not drone error it’s pilot/ instructor error. Tired of hearing these stupid reports about drones. We are , like ham radio a community that abides by the rules. You’re always going to get bad actors but as in ham radio, the enforcement bureau takes care of problem children. So to should the FAA. I’ve never in all my years of testing, teaching and operating on the ham bands been flagged or had the men in Black show up at my door and flash FCC credentials. I only fly DJI so I would know real fast if I got out of line. Police your own and you will not have problems. Sorry so long.
DJI is fully co-operating with the FAA, lets hope DJI doesn’t log your flights.
So what does a helicopter instructor/Student combo do when a large bird (Goose Pelican, Swan etc) flies directly towards the helicopter?? I don’t see why an small unmanned vehicle is anymore dangerous than a large bird in this instance.
Another thing:- Having considered the risk, I generally don’t like flying low over trees with my drones because if something went wrong it would end badly.. (You know – Don’t fly unless it is safe to do so – check the ANO guys!) This is something the instructor should have thought about before allowing his student to hover low near to a potential hazard. This whole thing stinks of an instructor trying to cover up his own incompetence.
there is no way in hell that a drone could get past the downdraft of a maned helicopter hovering to hit the body of it yes a drone could hit the rotors but it would still be a one sided fight why the hell didn’t the student pull up on the collective you have one point wrong hovering is the last thing maned helicopter pilots learn they even learn to land without hovering
I have never had an R/C crash I could not walk away from
Just some more Drone Bashing Bullshit, You are totally on Bruce,Drone pilots are to stay out of their airspace ,An we do for the most part.But it seems like they own the air, an they fly anywhere they please. Where I fly, there are always planes under 400ft. So I land anytime I hear one coming in,Just to be safe,or if I can’t, I drop to the deck, until I can land. Someone needs to call me,an tell me when they’re going to fly in my airspace.Damn it…
Have you seen this today?
A drone doe not have enough mass, to damage a plane or helicopter; if you hit a drone, you would never know it.
You brought back memories of Monokote. I started building balsa trainers in the late 70’s. It was indeed a labor of love and I spent 3 months building it. Had an old Kraft radio and a .45 motor. I never belonged to a club, although I had the owner of a hobby shop test fly my plane. 8 years ago, got back into electric helicopters and recently 2.4 ghz quadcopters. The hobby has indeed changed through technology. You are correct about the technology growing the number of people involved with flying. Unfortunately, we see many who have no clue on the regulations, etc. just grabbing their drone and flying over people in a park or a city. That’s going to be the downfall of this hobby or will restrict flights to AMA/FAA approved fields. I’m also an AMA member and have my FAA number on all my aircraft. I’m also a private pilot….