Full Speed – Toothpick11:59

Table of Contents:
00:56 – Flight video
04:07 – Frame
05:06 – ESC performance
06:17 – Geometry and weight distribution
08:48 – General recommendation
09:52 – Caddx camera issue

FullSpeed Toothpick:

Summary of the FullSpeed Toothpick:
Good performance with good quality assembly. Electronics seem reliable however FullSpeed has had ESC failure issues in the past. This is a brand new ESC and on this quad, the ESC performance is not the best but acceptable. In this size category, there is no best ESC. All the ones I’ve tested perform mediocre at best and this is no different. Throttle pumps yield some dipping and it’s very difficult to get a good tune on the quad as a result. Additionally, the longer weight distribution on the pitch axis also eats into the control performance of the quad for a number of reasons. The stretched X layout helps with managing the weight distribution in this case and overall performance is still very good. I have some concerns about the reliability of the Caddx camera on board based on my personal experience with Caddx cameras however the view is glorious for a quad of this size. I’ve pointed out many genitives but overall, the quad performs well and based on everything FullSpeed tells me, should be reliable. I would say that it’s currently the best option in the ‘Toothpick build style’ class.
http://www.fullspeedrc.com

Alternative options:
Happymodel Sailfly:
Caution: Very high failure rate of the AIO board they produce. This one is supposed to have an updated version but hard to trust.

If you can get a hold of JUST the FullSpeed frame or something similar, I would recommend the following parts:
Succex 16×16 stack:
AIO camera/vtx: ,
Some sort of canopy re-design will be needed to fit this camera but the weight reduction is going to be a significant benefit.
Amax 1103 7500kv:
The prop:
I have another prop I’ve been working on coming that is MUCH better. Will come in a couple weeks.
This battery:

An updated Toothpick video is going to be the very next video I post.

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Equipment I highly recommend:

Micro Eagle –

Caddx Ratel 1.66mm lens – This is a new product so we do not know if it is as reliable as the Micro Eagle just yet but I love the picture.

Rush Tank Vtx –

Fantastic solder-

TS100 iron –

WaFL’s Cap Cap

Xing 2306: ,
Flywoo 2306:
Hold off on 220X motors for now. There is a bug in BLheli/BF that makes them act a little weird unfortunately. 🙁

Sub $200 5″ build that’s still good:
Frame:
FC/4in1 Stack:
Motors:
Props:
Props:
FPV Cam:
Vtx:

Starter goggles I recommend:

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They had the gall to call it the toothpick! I’ll pass on this one and no more crazybee boards for me, I fried two in a Mobula 7. Never had a chance to try the 2nd one for a toothpick build.

will the 1s-2s toothpick version be available at banggood anytime soon? will it have a better price than this one? By better price i mean at most 110$

We need better props! Thank you! 👍
Will the props also be available with 1 mm hole?

Well, it was a while when I used build with 1103 motors. They was nice to control on 2S and freaking fast on 3S 450 mAh if build was not too heavy. Pity that those small frames 2 years ago was very flaky and prone to break on not so serious crashes. Board quality was not top notch either – all my micro ESCs from those days already fried. Hardware and especially software now improved so much that I now have a wish to get old junk out from shelf, get decent frame and build something in that size again. Note about weight and prop size limits is 200% correct. Very easy to overweight these things having fat sparrows in result who eat batteries like candy and are too uncomfortable to control.
Caddx cameras are mixed bag. Good picture in general, small size and affordable price. But quality fails in some positions, rendering these cameras partially usable. For example EOS2 camera – small and light enough to install in Mobula7 whoop and picture resolution and dynamic range are amazing. However colors are oversaturated and dark areas are turning red in afternoon’s sun. I don’t understand why. Designers are even not Chinese, they are Americans. Even Chinese Runcam and Foxeer learned how to build FPV cameras right. Why Caddx suck, why? If price is an issue then double it, but replace signal processing chip and do quality control as required to avoid glitches about that people are complaining. Well, from Ratel camera it look that Caddx are learning. Maybe they will make EOS3 camera for whoops that will not have oversaturated colors and dark areas in red.

why use that dipole instead of a lolipop cp

Love the people way smarter than me doing some sick stuff with these 1s’ers. Here’s another –

I have sworn off Caddx cameras after 2 failed units. Luckily it wasn’t during flights but on power up.